I’m trying to trace my TRENDELL and AVERY ancestors.
My 3x great grandfather was James TRENDELL, born 1814 in Radnage. He married Patience AVERY in 1844, in Crowell, and I am descended through their son, Henry TRENDELL, born 1857 in Nettlebed. Henry Trendell moved to Reading which is where the family stayed.
James TRENDELL was a chair maker and Patience AVERY was a lace maker when they married. According to the marriage certificate, James TRENDELLs father is John TRENDELL and a labourer.
I read on this page that in 2014 the parish records are still in the church at Radnage. Is this still the same or have they been moved to a records office now?
Any help much appreciated.
Yes. The records are still in the church for viewing.
We will be in Radnage the morning of Saturday, September 23rd. Look forward to viewing the parish records then.
Are there any Bennells still living in Radnage?
I am trying to find any information about my 5th great grandfather John Dormer who Married Ann Wellard in 1st October 1747 any information would be of great help i am disabled but would make the trip if it was worthwile i live in Cornwall
And the stone family Ralph Stone my 8th great grandfather 1636
Welcome to the Family! The Stones seem to have arrived in Radnage when Ralph Stone married Elizabeth (name unknown but from Radnage because Ralph was born in Princes Risborough) in St Mary’s in 1665. I can connect you to researchers specialising in the family.
Radnage.net There is a gravestone on the right of the entrance path to the church to a Stone but I forget which one. I was there when there was a tv crew filming in May 2014. Could you also please tell me the name of the show? Thank you! St Mary’s is a beautiful church and the Village of Radnage breathtaking to an Australian who heard how beautiful Bucks was all her life and now knows it was no exaggeration!
I have several White ancestors who used to live in Radnage. My great-great grandfather, John White a labourer of Radnage Common and son of James White a labourer, married Ann Seymour, lacemaker and daughter of John Stone, on 17th Dec 1842 in Radnage. I have been trying to find out more about John Stone without much success so I would be interested to know more about the Stone family in this area. I did find a christening of Ann Seymor on 21 Oct 1821 in Radnage and the mother was Jane Seymor. So any information on the Stone and Seymour/Seymor families in Radnage would be very welcome. John’s father James White was born in Stokenchurch near Radnage.
Thank you Anthea for the information regarding Ralph Stone, his wife was Elizabeth Stephens ,i will visit the church some time later in the year
I’m researching my family tree. I’ve come to a junction!
There are Stones in Radnage and also Chalfont st Giles that are furniture makers/chair makers. I’m confused as to which are mine?
My Father was a furnature maker till recently so followed the family tradition.
His Father was Albert Lloyd George Stone and his Grandfather was Thomas White Stone. They all were chair makers.
Would love some help with this.
Thank you in advance
Radnage.net There is a gravestone on the right of the entrance path to the church to a Stone but I forget which one. I was there in May 2014 when there was a tv crew filming. Could you also please tell me the name of the show? Thank you!
St Mary’s is a beautiful church and the Village of Radnage breathtaking to an Australian who heard how beautiful Bucks was all her life and now knows it was no exaggeration!
I wonder if you might advise me? Will it be possible to look at the parish record books next weekend, probably Sat morning 11/2/2017 or Sunday 12/2/2017 around lunchtime avoiding any services of course? I used to live in Downley, High Wycombe. I have moved to Cornwall.I now find that some of my family were chair & lace makers & other trades in Stokenchurch & Radnage! I think the furthest back I have traced to Radnage is William Hunt Wheelwright born around 1779, his son John Hunt born around 1805 (wheelwright/carpenter), his wife Harriet Avery born around 1807 (lacemaker) & their son James Hunt born around 1833 (chair turner) who married Fanny Messenger (chair seater) from Stokenchurch. We are in Bucks/Berks next weekend & hope we can get over to Radnage.
Of course. St Mary’s will be open on both days and you will find copies of the record books for you to check – (Births, Marriages and Funerals). Good luck.
Maybe someone else here can give you more information regarding your family.
I’m looking into my family tree, and according to my grandfather, our family originate from Radnage. The relative I know of who lived there was Henry Pitcher c.1910. Any information on him other Pitchers from the area would be greatly appreciated.
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I do beleive my Uncle was running the post office around the 1950s. He was Joseph Brooks and his wife Mary. Now living in Spain it would great if I could unite some of the family history.
Many Thanks Trevo Brooks
I know that a number of my Stacey ancestors were buried in Radnage. I am assuming it was at St. Mary’s church. Are there any restrictions on visiting the St. Mary’s church cemetery? I am hoping to visit the next time I am in England. Also Is there a way of viewing the church records; or is there any archives that hold these records?
There are two record books in St Mary’s that go back to 1574 for births deaths and marriages that are available for viewing. Unfortunately we don’t have them online yet, but you can visit anytime.
Believe my grandmother and grandfather buried at st. Mary’s in radnage any way to check.
There are records in the church that go back to the 1500’s so if you visit, you can browse through the books.
Further to my earlier request for information in the Rixson family, after receiving further information from Australia, I have managed to track them down in Stokenchurch. Many thanks.
I am fairly new to Radnage and I believe my telephone number has been reallocated to me and previously belonged to the Rixon or Rickson family. I have received many calls over the past year asking for Paul Rixon, all of which I believed to be cold callers so I haven’t really paid too much attention until this morning when I received a call from Australia. The person who called today was looking for Sylvia Rixon, previously Sears, she believes she had a sister called Mary and a son called Paul. She believes Sylvia went to school in Stokenchurch and may have even lived in Stokenchurch rather that Radnage. It would be lovely to help this caller from Victoria in Australia, who’s Mother was good friends with Sylvia. If anyone can give me any information on any of these names I would be very grateful.
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Hi, i was given 30yrs ago by an elderly Radnage lady a list of names of us kids circa 1955-1980, if anyone would like a copy do please email me email@example.com. If you can add to it do please let me know. It has grown over the years I have laid it on the Roads of Radnage. Cheers Paul formally of No2 Green Lane.
I descend from a Stephen White who was transported to Maryland in 1659 with a Robert Saunders. They later were involved in a land transaction in Maryland thus we think they might have known one another in England. Another land transaction Stephen White sells part of a tract called “Radnage”. Is it possible that Stephen White and Robert Saunders came from Radnage or the vicinity? The family has a DNA test and would love to find a White in England who might test for a “match. Thank you, R. Bromley
Can anyone help confirm some details I have for a Thomas Ashby born around 1776. The details I have are
OCT 1810 • Radnage, Bucks to Elizabeth Ann Mealing (1787–1867)
16 Aug 1849 • Radnage, Bucks
I believe they had 6 children
David, Mary, Moses, Sarah, Sophia and Ann
I’m helping my granddaughter work on her family tree, and Thomas and Elizabeth appear in it as well as their children. I’m happy to help to confirm details if you contact me.
Vi ( Violet)Pitcher ( married to Ernest)was my mum, Tony is her son are we mixing up the Vi’s?
I’m not looking for anyone in particular in Radnage but would like to know if there was ever a home called Radnage Manor, or the like….during WWII my father stayed in a grand empty old multi-roomed house which he remembered as being named Radnage Manor. He was required to stay alone in this house to watch over machinery which was stored there. He experienced some very strange eeries occurrences…thus he did not get much sleep. He remembered the entrance to the driveway had large ornamental gates and embedded in the brick wall was a mail box with the Queen Victoria emblem. He also remembered a pub in the area called The Three Cricketers. I inquired to Cotswold Life back in 1983 on my Dad’s behalf but they could not locate the Radnage Manor property…but they did mention a Radnage House. Sadly my Dad passed away a few years back… but having just found this magazine and info again in my storage area I thought I would try another inquiry through different means.
Thank you for any information about this location.
I think the house you are looking for is probably Radnage House rather than Radnage Manor – it is now the riding stables. Hope this helps.
Derek Tolley-Newell …. A fellow researcher has corrected my mistakes and errors so “together” we have an update on my August 2015 posting. We have James Newell (born 1807) who married Agusta and had five children (Henry, Charles, John, James and Isaac). Isaac married Emma Bennell and they had seven children (Mary Ann, James Henry, Emily, Frederick, Ada Alice, Jonah and John William Thomas). James married Sarah Styles and we find nine children having a mother maiden name Styles but we are not sure about parents, as I will explain. Evelyn born 1910, Albert born 1912, Frederick born 1914, Gladys born 1916, Thomas born 1918, Arthur born 1920 and your father Robert born 1921 we have taken to be the children of James and Sarah. The final two children are Ethel born 1924 and Jonathan born 1926. Are they the children of James and Sarah or are they the children of James’s brother John who married Eliza Styles? We then have another question Derek. Your great grandfather Isaac was the son of James Newell born 1807 who was the son of John Newell born 1781. Can you help us with any information about this latter John Newell. My email is firstname.lastname@example.org
I am still experiencing difficulty tracing the parents of Mary Newell my great grandmother born in 1838 at Stokenchurh. I would appreciae any information which would allow me to continue my search. Thankyou.
Well Jean your great grandmother was my great grandfather’s older sister by two years. She was born in the hamlet of Water End where her parents George Newell and wife Mary Ann Keen lived after their marriage. George b1806 had started out as a farm labourer but switched to a road man in his late thirties. The main road from London to Oxford was less than a mile away and had been churned up by the stage coaches and carts so there was an increasing amount of work in road repairs using the local stone. I don’t know when he died but his wife Mary Ann b1806 died in 1877. She had been the daughter of William and Fanny Keen, both born in West Wycombe, Buckinghamshire in about 1781, married there in about 1803 and had seven children. George had been the second of ten children born to John Newell (1781-1868) of Stokenchurch and Martha Barret (1782-1857) of West Wycombe. Depending on how I excite you, we can go back to 1669 but then I run out of relatives. Happy times from your third cousin Trevor.
Greetings from Salisbury South Australia to my third cousin in England.
I was overjoyed today to discover your reply to my query and thank you so much for making my day. I would certainly like to be excited further by going back to 1669.Alittle about me. I migrated to South Australia with my husband in 1954 and both worked in the guided weapons industry for fourteen years before changing to the commercial world where Robert worked in the wool industry and myself in retail (office). We retired in 1985 and became involved in social and community activities. Robert died nine and a half years ago. I have endeavoured to keep myself busy with various activities including lacemaking and geneology. You are no doubt aware that two of my ancestors were lacemakers in Buckinghamshire.
My last visit to UK was 3 years ago when I caught up with family and friends and met a second cousin for the first time. Thank you again for helping me. Jean
And reciprocal greetings from Salisbury, South Wiltshire. Write to me at email@example.com and I shall fill in some gaps Jean.
Hello Trevor, My 4th great-grandfather was John Newell (1781 – 1868) and next was 3rd great grandfather George Newell (1806 – 1877) then his daughter Eliza married into the Ashby line. I see you can go back to 1669 with the Newell,s I would appreciate any information you may have.
David, come and join the club !! I was quite rightly picked up by a fellow researcher concerning John Newell born 1781. I had claimed that he was the son of John Newell born 1750 and his wife Lydia born 1754. We are agreed that could not be, so we are currently stuck, unable to discover the parents of your 4th great grandfather John. Contact me at the email address just up the page and I will gladly expand on all that.
Hi Jean, I’ve just discovered this website, and am thrilled to discover some familiar names from my research. I believe I am directly descended from Stephen Bradbury and Mary Newell, through their daughter Elizabeth (b. 1859) who married George Rogers in 1880. Elizabeth and George are my great-grandparents. If my facts are right, then I think we are third cousins once removed!
Thanks also to Trevor for the details in his post dated 21/10/15, I had never managed to get back further than Stephen and Mary.
Best wishes to you both.
Hi Graham, Jean’s really excited about discovering new relations just in time for Christmas. Her email wouldn’t register on this site. Can you email me and I will pass your address to Jean.
I am researching the Bradbury family tree and my great grandparents were William Irving and Emma White on my grandmothers side. I am having great difficulty tracking down Emma’s parents and would be most grateful for any leads. Trevor Long and Graham Bates have already helped me in my research for which I am most thankful. Please contact me if you can help. Regards Jean
Attention Derek Tolley-Newell …… Hi Derek I missed your message in April ‘cos I was in the garden !! You now need to concentrate whilst I confuse you. My grandfather was James Emmanual Newell (b1874 in Beacons Bottom) and his father was George Newell (b1837 at Water End) and his father was George Newell (b1806 in Stokenchurch) and his father was John Newell (b1781 in Stokenchurch). Now, according to me that John Newell and his wife Martha had ten children, one of whom was James Newell (b1807 at West Wycombe) who married Agusta and had four children, one of whom was Isaac (b1852 at Stokenchurch) who married Emma Bennell from Bennetts End and had seven children, one of whom was James (b1882 at Water End) who married Sarah Styles from Town End, Radnage. Finally I spoil the story by only knowing about four of their children – Evelyn, Albert, Frederick and Gladys which leaves your dad out of it. Is there a connection ?? No I’ve never ‘eard of you. Love Trevor
I am trying to trace my family who were from Radnage and Stokenchurch.
They moved to Manchester in the late 1800’s and set up a chair making factory in the centre of the city. My great great grandfather was Jonah Bennell (b.1847 d.1930) who married Sarah Ann Barney in 1866. Jonah was a Methodist lay preacher and returned to Stokenchurch when he retired, living opposite the church on the common.
Jonah’s father was Edmond or Edmund Bennell and he was married to Esther Stone.
Hi Everyone, I am hoping some one out there might be able to help me with families from my Family tree.
I am trying to find out about
I have Robard (Robert ??) Allen b abt 1630 married Sesly (maybe Cecily) they had a son Isaac b 1655 married Catherine Boarer b abt 1655.
Their son Isaac b 1682 married Colubery Greenwood, they had 5 children. One of the children was my 6x great grandmother who married John Franklin.
Am hoping there might be a connection with some one that can help me with my families from the area.
Thanking all that have read this.
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Hi everyone. I can trace Newells in radnage and surrounding area back to 1708. The family married Bennells, Whites, Ashby, Plumridge, Gomme and more and lived in Radnage, Stokenchurch, Bennet End, Water End and Horsleys Green. If anyone knows anything or has any questions please get in touch. I have lots of information just not necessarily all pieced together. I do know there were many second marriages and most of my family are buried in front of and to the right of St Mary’s as you stand in front of the church.
my great grandmother was Mary Newell born c.1838 and married to Stephen Bradbury. I am anxious to trace Mary’s parents and grandparents and wondered if youcan help me to progress further with my family tree. Look forward to hearing from you. Thank you. Jean in South Australia.
Hi Derek, I’m from the long line of Ashbys that come from the Stockenchurch area. I have a Mary Newell born around 1685 who married a John Ashby on 14 OCT 1711 in St Michaels & All Angels,Hughendon, Bucks. Not sure if this would be one of your relations
Does anyone know the name of the artist who used to live in the thatched cottage next to the Crown pub must have been there during the 60s70s
Hi Perrelva ,cant help you with your question but was wondering of you are Fay’s sister? If so then your mum used to look after me when I was à baby & toddler and Fay and I used to play Together at your Home along the end of Green Lane our house / farm was called Pigeoncote
Hi Linda, I’ve just come across this website, yes Perrelva is my sister. How are you, it seems a long time since we last met. Fay
I’m Beverley ,sister of Perrelva and Fay,
Can you tell me if vi pitcher is still alive please?
Our mum is still with us and is now 105,
She lives in Rutland where I live,
She was friends with vi for many years, and we have been in touch, but have had no contact lately,
Any news would be appreciated, many thanks
What a coincidence! found this site last year. It would seem as we get older we start to remember more about our early years. It must be 50 years since we last met! However remember visiting you and staying over at your place very vividly.I am very well and have lived in the Netherlands for the last 40 years but always have a drive around Radnage if possible when back in the UK.
Would love to hear from you and have a big catch up. Will let you know next time, or if you are ever over here let me know! Linda
Hi, sounds a lovely idea to meet up when you are next over here. I will try and remember to open this site every now and then.
How fantastic, that you mum has reached 105! Mum died five years ago but she also did well getting to 89. She suffered with osteoporosis from her late 60,s onwards but otherwise did quite well and lived independently in Somerset until she died.
Dad died in 1991. Pauline still lives in High Wycombe. We lost contact with Josie.Tony, my brother,now lives in Spain. Best regards, Linda
Our mum Marion Louise Sears,died las week, age106,
she died in Rutland,near daughter Beverley,
mum lived in Radnage untill she was97years old,
Hello Fay and Beverly, did you get to find out if Vi is still with us, I last saw her 5 yes ago when her son John bought down to see mum. I have a list of names of us kids from 1950/80,s given to me years ago, which over the years I have added to. If you email me I can send you a copy its quite extensive. If you can add to it do please let me know so I can update mine. Hope you’re both well. Say hi to mum for me. I will visit Radnage next week 6/3/16
I remember you well, it would be really interesting to see your list.
Fay did i send you the list of names of us kids from Radnage? 1950 – 80 Please email me at email@example.com
I’m an old timer originating from the Newell/Plumridge family living down at Crookswood in Thirds Wood off Studley Green. I remember most things from my childhood but just cannot recall where Lydia’s Bottom was. Can somebody help ?
Well done on an excellent uncomplicated village website.
Hello. I think you must be thinking of Lydalls Bottom, which is the lower end of Radnage Common Road. In fact, the very botton of this road (on the south side) is actually in Stokenchurch rather than Radnage!
Many thanks radnage.net, I reckon you’re right. The people who did the Census in bygone days didn’t always write up the village in the order they walked round it. In 1861 the guy did City, Radnage Common, Lydias Bottom (2 occupied & 1 unoccupied dwellings), Primitive Methodist Chapel, Radnage Common, Ashridge, Pond Farm, Green End so on this occasion he seemed to follow a pattern.
I’ve faced several spelling issues like this making me remember that many folks didn’t read’n’write so clerks relied on interpreting local accents.
You mention you are ” originating from the Newell/Plumridge family”, would this be James Plumbridge who married Ellen Newell?
Reckon not David – My mother was a Newell living down that track opposite the Five Alls in Studley Green and the origin of that Newell branch is George Newell(b1837) who was a road maker from Beacons Bottom and his father George Newell from Water End. The Plumridge side of the family is that branch that had Gibbons, Bigmore, Dells, Kenshams & Eastwood Farms at Cadmore End in about 1900. All the best, Trevor
Hi Trevor. My father was Robert Newell from Radnage. His sister Gladys married Frank Plumridge. Their father James was born in Water End and his father Isaac was born in Horsleys Green. Do you think there is a connection?
Interested in information about ancestors John Trendall (ell) b 1705 through to his great grandson Joseph Trendall (ell) b 1805 who went to London. Worked as chairmakers.
I visited Radnage 12 months ago but only for a few hours.
Hi Brian I have a John Trendall from Radnage in my family tree. He is my 7th gt grandfather. bc 1705 married Jane Luce/Lucy in 1725. Is this the same John Trendall as in your tree?
I live in High Wycombe, which is not far from Radnage.
Yes that is the one. Spelling “changed” to Trendell and Trendle but have confirmed links. They were my 5th great grandparents.
Any ideas on how to get further back, church or parish records perhaps.
I see from your Maunder Jungle that John Trendall married Elizabeth Turner. I have her as his second wife after Hannah who had three children, William 26/1/1751, Hannah 5 Aug 1753 and John 1755.
Tracey – are we related? My grandfather was Ernest Maunder from Radnage. My great-grandmother had several siblings and I am wondering if you descend from them.
Hi everyone that may have know my family my great great grandfather was James pitcher and my grandmother was Alice Bradshaw ne Pitcher my father who has recently passed away was John Bradshaw just wondering if any of my descendants still live in the area my last known relative was uncle Jim who passed away in 1993 ? .
My nan Alice was well known in the area for working in the crown pub and on many occasions putting her little blue disabled car in the hedges after one to many Guinness?. The family and dad used to run farms in the area including the old dairy farm just down from the three horse shoes I would love to here from anyone/relatives still in the area .
My Dad was Ernest Pitcher, James’s brother. You have plenty of relatives still around the world. Tony, my brother lives in Spain ,I live in the Netherlands.We are also very close to Pauline,our half sister, she too has a large family. I remember Auntie Alice very well especially afternoons tasting her home made elderberry wine!, also remember all of the other Aunties, Joyce, Mary, Doris and Sarah. Would love to catch up if you would like to exchange family history! Kind regards, Linda
Sorry to hear that you have lost your Dad John.
Can anyone shed some light on my fathers family, Maurice Ashby born 1925 and lived at what is now known as “Three Cottages” Bennett End, with John and Ethel Ashby.
I have been researching my side of the ‘Ashby’ family and have a possible match to a Maurice Ashby. Did your father have a middle name, also do you know the names of his parents or any other information. If you let me know I will see if it ties in with my information. If it does I can e-mail a copies of family trees I have.
My father Maurice lived with John and Ethel Ashby, his mothers name was Emily Harvey or Harvey may have been Maurice’s fathers name. Maurice later changed his name to Maurice Ashby-Harvey, he has no middle name.I know very little about my fathers family, although I stayed with John and Ethel Ashby in the school holidays but had no idea that they were not my fathers blood parents. My father became aware of this later in life, but didn’t want to know about his true parentage, saying that John and Ethel were much loved parents to him. Maurice’s father may lived in Brighton but this is speculation.
It looks very likely that your father is the one on my family tree. It appears that your great grandfather was the brother of my great-great grandfather.If you would like to e-mail me at firstname.lastname@example.org I will send you a copy of the family tree that I have showing your father and four previous generations.
I am descended from John Ashby’s brother Frederick. I don’t know much about John, but he and his wife Ethel are buried at Radnage. I only know a limited amount about Frederick’s siblings. John was the son of Alfred Ashby and Elizabeth Bird.
Trying to find some more information re the Bennell Family. Anne Bennell ( b1885) was my Grandmother and her parents were George Bennell and Caroline Ing. Thanks
Just wondered what information you had on the bennell family.
I have been to St Marys and seen the BENNELL graves not sure where your ancesters fit in with mine but all my recent family come from radnage or within a few miles including Chinnor and Crowel
Would be good if we can make contact
regards ken bennell
Hi Victor. I gave a tree showing George & Caroline which ultimately goes back to 1611 if that’s of any help/interest. George’s sister Emma France’s married Isaac Newell who was my GGF
I am researching my family tree and I have so far traced my ancestors to radnage .my ggggg grandfather was called Joseph Keene and he married a Mary newell.i would be grateful if I could get any information about them.My husband and me are planning a trip to Radnage at the end of June and would love to visit the church and cometary .I would be grateful for information if there is tours to see these and also the parish records
Over 20 years ago, I came to St Mary’s while walking the Chiltern Way. I seam to remember seeing a grave stone with a picture of a man with a bow and arrow, saying he was the man that shot the last bear in England. I now live in America and recently visited the area again, but I was unable to find the gravestone again. Can anyone confirm this. Linda
I am trying to confirm that Juliana Levett née Tonyn is buried in the St. Mary’s cemetery in Radnage… If so, does anyone also have the dates of birth and/or death or where I could track down this information.
Any information or assistance would be greatly appreciated. Thank you very much!
Trying to find details of a James Peddle/Pedwell,born circa 1800.Married a relation Elizabeth Ashby of Sarratt Herts.
Was living Rickmansworth Herts.Master carpenter.Any help would be appreciated
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My mother was a Pitcher descended from the Bennells of Radnage.
Are there any Bennells still living in the area?
Carleton Place On. Canada
I AM A BENNELL AND I LIVE IN THAME OXFORDSHIRE ABOUT 6 MILES FROM RADNGE BE GOOD TO MAKE CONTACT
REGARDS KEN BENNELL
I believe my grandfather and grandmother are buried at St. Mary’s Church in Radnage it would be some time ago and also a daughter. There last name was Stacey. Just wondering if you can confirm for me. The daughters name was Grace and she was never married. Thanking you in advance
I have recently found a personal seal dating to the 13/14th century on farmland close to Radnage. It shows the name Robert Braund & I wondered if you have in the parish records any mention of the surname Braund……..Many Thanks Roger Paul
I am trying to trace my Great Great Grandfather, I believe he may have lived and run the pub in Radnage, used to be called the Black Boy Inn. I am told that there is a book in the church about him, Peter Florida, is this correct and could you give me any information on him? Can I get a copy of this book if you told me the details of when it was published and the publishers name etc. I would be so grateful for any information .
Do you know Peter Florida’s very interesting story? I know he married a Stone but can connect you to someone, not on here, who knows more details.
Hello Caroline, The way I read Charles Tonyn’s movements 1754-1756 is like this:
He left Oxford on 29th May 1754 just after his father died.
He was ordained deacon on 4th June and was soon appointed chaplain to Lord Torphichen.
His diary shows that while at Oxford he had many chums with whom he share meals etc. One student stands out, Mr Hellier whose company he shared on 96 occasions at Oxford and in London. In fact he spent twelve weeks of the late summer with Hellier, the young wealth orphan, at his house in Staffordshire, returning to London in mid October. I believe this was (Sir)Samuel Hellier.
Following this escapade Tonyn went into a flurry of activity including his ordination as priest. He was “pencilled in” for the chaplaincy at Smyrna but didn’t go.
Within two months of his return from The Wodehouse he was on his way to Algiers and was only able to return to England under licence annually renewed for ten years.
I think there are links between these events.
You may well be right about CWT’s appointment to the chaplaincy on the Phoenix 1768-69 but I note Charles was not unprepared for sea travel. George Tonyn wrote to his brother in June 1770 “You must prepare yourself for a trip with Charley to Portsmouth about the latter end of August. Keep yourself in constant readiness of sailing for on my arrival you will receive immediate orders.” By August of course George was dead.
Charles Tonyn was Vicar for Swanbourne in North Bucks for 7 years before he got to Radnage. He lived there with his widowed mother. This is the story I put together for the website called Swanbournehistory.co.uk:-
By 1757, he (Charles) was back in England, and from 1760 until his death in 1805 he resided in Buckinghamshire at Swanbourne Vicarage (after being appointed the Vicar) from April 1760 to February 1767, then at Radnage Rectory near Princes Risborough, Bucks, (after being appointed the Rector) from 14th February 1767 to 1805. He was also already a JP for Buckinghamshire.
While living at Swanbourne, the following advertisement appeared in The Oxford Journal, of June 25th, 1763:-
At SWANBOURNE, near WINSLOW, BUCKS ;
T R I P O L I
A Very fine Arabian HORSE, rising Five Years old and of the highest Blood, the Present of the BEY of TRIPOLI to Capt. George TONYN of his Majesty’s Ship Brune, is just arrived, and will cover Mares at Three Guineas each, and Half a Crown the Servant. The Money to be paid at the Time of Covering the Mares, or before they are taken away.
The BEY of Tripoli was the ruler of the Bay of Tripoli on the Barbary Coast of the Ottoman Empire. Hence the horse was named Tripoli, and it was available to hire for stud in Swanbourne.
The brother of Charles was George Tonyn, and the horse was grazed on land in Swanbourne granted to Charles at Enclosure in 1762.
Charles only went to Radnage after agreeing a job swap with the then Rector at Radnage who was Morgan Morgan, the latter becoming Vicar at Swanbourne from late February, 1767.
I’m interested to hear that CWT may have been overseas early in 1769. He wasn’t with his brother George that’s for sure. George’s first voyage as commodore on the Phoenix is quite well documented. There is no reference to PGF of course. Peter was an incidental on the voyage, a small slave child found probably in either Jamaica or Cape Coast (Philip Quaque may have had a role here) not worth making a fuss about.
Two mysteries in CWT’s life – why was he exiled to Algiers? (I have a theory)and why was he booked as chaplain on the first Phoenix voyage – then decline?
All part of the rich story.
Hi Julian -If I could just make two suggestions based on my understanding of ecclesiastical life in 18th century England and my perusal of the Tonyn Paterson papers a few years ago:-
I am not sure where the idea of Rev CWT being “exiled” has come from. As a newly ordained minister he needed to seek a living. The British trading post in Algiers was a flourishing outpost of the British Empire and the living was in the gift of the king (as was Radnage). He probably felt quite pleased to accept the appointment as it would have been exciting and lucrative. As I am sure you are aware it was the norm in his family to serve overseas- all his brothers and his father spent most of their adult lives abroad. Once he realised that it was not to his liking he came home but he would have continued to receive the stipend without having to fulfill any duties; a prime example of absenteeism, which together with pluralism were two common problems with the 18th Century church in England
The authority from the admiralty to serve as a shipboard chaplin may well have been another sinecure that did not involve him doing anything or going anywhere but brought him an income to supplement the income that he took from the tithes in Radnage a small and poor community. In short this is most likely to be about generating additional income rather than performing any duties. Regards Caroline
As you can see, my surname is Radnedge. I was wondering if there is any connection between my name and your village name. Does Radnage actually mean something in old English. For instance a village on the edge of something. Have you had any people living in the village or area with our surname?
I do know that many of my ancestors in the 1800s came from Bristol.
If you can find anything out, it would be much appreciated.
I may be the “other descendent” mentioned earlier in this correspondence. I certainly have a number of original documents from the Tonyn family and have tried to trace the PGF story in relation to the Tonyns,the Stones and Radnage. I’ve now put together about 100000 words, well or ill chosen, which I’m finally drafting and thinking of putting on the web. There’s a tremendous amount to be said about Peter George, the family who brought him up and the circumstances of his time.
Does anyone possibly know if Pophley’s Farm & Newell’s Farm are/were one of the same (c 1840’s), as understand the Newell’s lived at Pophleys. Have a relative [Eliza King] born at Newell’s farm. And if so are the farms still there? Thanks.
I am descended from the Tonyns, via the aunt of Rev Charles William. I have some information about the family – names and dates for some of them, really (I’d be happy to share with anyone if interested). However, I was really wondering if anyone had any more interesting information about them? Who they were, what they did, etc…? firstname.lastname@example.org
Hi Julian I’ll email you some info soon!
Re: Peter George Florida
It’s now believed that Peter was brought over to England by Rev Tonyn who had been a Chaplain at Algiers, and returned on his brothers ship which was a slave trading ship,trading from England to West Africa and the West Indies. I know that Peter George Florida grew up & married & was buried in Radnage….I would just like to know if there is a grave or gravestone? Anyone know?
Peter George FLORIDA.
A long time since I visited the site so sorry to those who might have been expecting me to reply. Here are some responses.
1 Although Charles William TONYN was offered the Chaplaincy in Algeria as far as we know he did not take it up pleading ill health I think.
2 There is no grave stone for PGF – the records show his burial was on 22 Jul 1793 – when he would have been about 32. Phillis his wife (nee STONE) went on to marry a Thomas IVES.
3 The records show that PGF was tenant at The Cheques public house between 1787 and 1792. The tenancy was taken over by a William Collins and a year later the name of the pub was changed to The Black Boy. It later became the Three Horseshoes the name it retains today.
Thanks Ivor, I didn’t think that PG had a gravestone,thanks for confirming. As for the Revd Charles Tonyn theory it still needs proving one way or the other. I’ve seen five Admiralty doc’s. One for beginning of 1869 for permission to enter Capt Tonyn’s ship & enter our kingdom … for Charles Tonyn and one servant!I’m in touch with another descendant of PG who has in his possession some letters from the Tonyn family. From these he has another theory that it was the Revds’ brother the Captain who rescued PG from Guinea coast. I believe he bought some letters from a sale at Sotheby’s, which he thinks that maybe the Revd didn’t sail on the ship…i don’t know anymore as the guy wants to research a little more and write a book.You are welcome to my email address to disscuss further & i can explain in more detail,let me know. kind regards.
Thanks for the additional info. I have also been in contact with (I assume) the “another descendant of PG” that you mention and I am awaiting news on his book. The reference to “enter our kingdom … for Charles Tonyn and one servant!” is very interesting and I would love to know where you saw it.I assume the date is 1769 NOT 1869.
As I say elsewhere on the Radnage web site I have a copy of the Rev CWTs account book for the rectory in Radnage which covers the years 1767 to 1775. There is a gap in the entries between Feb 1769 and Oct 1770 so perhaps CWT did go away in this period and would tie in with PGFs baptism in Oct 1769. The accounts book mentions a Peter after this time and I assume this is PGF who was living in the rectory. There is also a Phillis Stone as a servant in the rectory who Peter George married.
My email is ivor(@)clucas(.)org – leave out the brackets – if you want to be in touch.
Thank you for your reply. Yes i did mean 1769! I will email you the transcript i wrote and source shortly when i get the chance. From what you have said about the gap in the entries in the Rev CWTonyn’s account book the theory seems more likely by the day. As for Phillis i wondered how she and PGF got together!
I wonder if your surname hails from Radnadge? I am a cousin of Rebecca Bromley, and we are looking for a Stephen White of Radnadge, Buckinghamshire, within a time frame of 1630-1645, + or – 10 years. Perhaps adjoining parishes would include his family. Any info. would be of great help. email@example.com
A belated response. Just to say that I did a fairly thorough search or the Tonyn / Paterson papers a few years ago. I am confident that Rev Tonyn did take up the post in Algiers. I had the opportunity to read the notebook / diary in which he described the social events that he attended whilst in Algiers, also the relief he felt on departure on board a boat bound initially for Leghorn – no suggestion that it was his brother’s boat! No records of his brother operating in this area. He vividly describes the traumas of the return voyage, storms, pirates and lack of rations.
He landed at Marseilles. From that point he wrote every year to the king requesting to remain in England for the benefit of his “health” and his “affairs”. Hope that helps.
I have recently discovered that my father’s 5 sisters, when children, were sent on holidays to a pub in Radnage, staying with a Mr Harry or Harry, who was a relative. This would have been in 1890s or early 1900s. Their surname was Williams. I see that there are 2 pubs, The Crown & Three Horsehsoes, but I do not know which pub they would have stayed at. Is there any local history of who owned/worked at the pubs at that time?
Have no idea who ‘harry’ was, although my gt grandmother’s maiden name was Cooper & the family lived in High Wycombe. Would appreciate any suggestions. Thank you.
Whatva wonderful service this is. I have ancestors by the name of Stone who seem to have lived in Radnage for generations. I was wondering if any of them have tombstones. Some names are James (d. 1881), Robert (d. 1854), John the Elder (d. 1783, Elizabeth (d. 1810, Edward (d. 1787). Also would anyone know what their occupations were. I am visiting UK ( from Australia) in January and would love to see some evidence of them.
I have just spent New Years day with friends in Prestwood. Whilst there I visited Radnage for the first time. I too have ancestors called Stone, who lived there going back to the 1500s. I had a look around the graves at St Mary’s church and found quite a few Stones, some in the 1800s and some in the 1900s, but can’t remember their names.
My ancestors, who are likely to be your ancestors, too, were mostly yeoman farmers as far as I can see. Hope your trip goes well. All the best, Peter
Thanks for that, Peter. Unfortunately while we were in UK, most transport links into the countryside were closed due to heavy snow and ice, so we didn’t get out of London, let alone to Radnage. Next time…
My geat Grandfather was Alfred stone born in Radnage in 1850.He came from a large family of Stones in Radnage.his wife was Julia nee Mayger who was born in Maidstone.his Father was Isaac or sometimes calling himself Jesse.his wife was Mary .Jesse or Isaac was born in 1819 and Mary 1815
In 1841 they lived in Town End. Alfred had quite a few children ,my Gran clara being one. I have a list of all the children if reqired.I too live in Australia,Victoria,Linda
Thanks Linda. My Stone ancestor came to WA as a convict, but could read and write, so would have had some form of education.
Jesse and Mary Stone are my gggrandparents also. My link is through Alfred’s sister Elizabeth who married John Dormer in 1869. I’d be interested to make contact. I also live in Victoria, Australia!
My contact email is cathiesteele(@me.)com (delete the brackets to use this address).
I look forward to hearing from you.
Diane – there are loads of STONEs buried in the church yard at Radnage as follows:
4 Henry STONE 2.8.1907 70
5 Mary STONE 24.8.1893 59
8 Mary STONE 25.7.1885 70
11 Jesse STONE 9.11.1895 77
13 Robert STONE 18.5.1872 66
13 Mary STONE 18.11.1887 76
14 George STONE 30.12.1914 68
14 Ann STONE 15.5.1931 81
19 Walter STONE 27.5.1955 71
42 Thomas STONE 13.12.1958 76
42 Francis STONE 8.9.1957 70
43 John STONE 2.10.1858 63
43 Ann STONE 11.9.1881 80
51 George STONE 6.3.1927 73
51 Eliza STONE 30.8.1935 79
53 Eliza STONE 25.10.1870 19
54 Jane STONE 11.12.1834 28
54 John STONE 29.11.1875 68
67 Robert STONE 1813 29
104 Elizabeth STONE 3.3.1810 82
105 William STONE 3.4.1840 83
105 Ann STONE 29.6.1806 50
105 Francis STONE 18.2.1840 78
106 John STONE 3.7.1785 35
107 Robert STONE 25.8.1762
If you visit the church you might well find a plan of the church yard in side to help you locate them.
Thank you Ivor. I will have to visit the UK again and make sure it’s not winter where I will be prevented to go to Radnage by heavy snow falls! Some of the names on your list seem familiar, so I will have to check my notes.
I have relatives buried in Radnage graveyard. I wondered if by chance you had a list of the Maunder and Bird family graves.
Hi, I have details on my greandfather who was born in Radnage in 1892, his name was Francis John Turner, his father was William Turner a chair turner by trade, William wife was Maria Turner, formally Bird.
Hi, I have just sent off for a birth certificate for a phillis turner born 1872, if I have got my details right she is my great grandmother and married into the cox family, there is someone else on this site looking for cox turner whom we have sent a reply to but heard nothing back. when I know more will post my email address on here if any help to you. regards Steve Cox.
Hi,I am trying to find a distant relative, John TOOVYE, buried 21 Jun 1658, in the Radnage church yard. A photo would be really appreciated, of the stone, not him.
i am trying to contact a peter and jackie browne that lived in radnage near the crown pub in the early 1970’s can anyone help with info.thanks
I believe they split up, Jackie married a Vernon Hook from Radnage i do not know of their where about now. Paul
Hi, Noel from Australia. I’m interested in the name Weller (Wellard) from Radnage.
I have a Thomas born in Radnage before Oct 1765 the son of Thomas Wellard & Elizabeth Hicks. Thomas who was born before Oct 1765 married Sarah Chapman and died in Radnage Dec 1841. If any one has any information on this name I would be very grateful. Thank you.
Hi Noel from Australia,
I am descended from Ann Wellard bap 18 Oct 1717 in Radnage, whom I believe was brother to your Thomas Wellard (Snr) bap 16-10-1706 together with Mary 1704, Sarah 1709, John 1711/12, and Hannah 1717. All were children of William and Sarah Welled/Wellad/Welhead/Wellard.
William Welhead (a labourer) and Sarah Allen were married by Banns at St Marys church 7-10-1703
Happy to share research. Please contact me by email.
Hi, Cathie Thank you for your reply to my email. I’m in England on holidays at the moment and plan to visit Radnage. My email is firstname.lastname@example.org. Cheers Noel
I am trying to find out more about Mary LACY (LACEY?) who I believe married John FREE of Hughenden in Radnage Church on 08 Sep 1747 and died in Princes Risborough on 25 February 1776. Assuming that that was the bride’s church, I should like confirmation that she was born in the village in 1727 and anything else known about her, please.
I have an ancestor who was baptised in Radnage. Joseph Ives – 9 Mar 1761. Son of Joseph & Mary Ives.
I think he ended up in Stokenchurch, and was buried there in 1842.
Are there any graves, or records of graves, for Joseph Ives Snr. c1726 & Mary Ives c1729.. Or possibly more children to them.
Regards. Steve Ives.
I am looking for any information about Thomas Wright Born 1891? Buckinghamshire. Brought up by grandmother and elder sisters. As his Mother died when he was very young . Grandmothers name and surname unknown. Sisters believed to have flower names Rose &Violet ? He grew up living on a farm in Radnage Buckinghamshire. The Farm house was down a very narrow track it had a very distinctive tree directly outside the door Possibly a pear tree. Are there any records of Thomas Wright or sisters attending the village school? He was employed as Apprentice chair maker before Joining the army before WW1 served in India in the Royal horse artillery. When he returned home from army after WW1 to find granny had died and sisters had moved away.
Any information about the name of the farm or family around 1900 and anything about Thomas Wright and sisters would be appreciated.
Hi, I believe my great, great, grandfather, Reuben Stone was born in Radnor in 1847. He married Caroline ? (orn in 1849) who was from Winkfield, Bucks. Are there any records of either Reuben & Carolines wedding, Carolines maiden name, or Reubens family. Thanks so much for any help.
Hi there. I am desperately trying to find out the fathers name of nicholas oxlade who was baptiss to ed in st marys in about 1476. Do the records go back this far and is there anyone who could help me find this information. I have done well getting back this far but all attempts at going back any further are really hard.
Hi, can you please tell me if Ray Brimble was buried in St. Mary’s Church in 1975 he died 29th Nov 1975. Can you please help for any info because he lived in Radnage Many Thanks
Yes – there is a gravestone that has is name on it. It is quite easy to find – close to the footpath that runs through the churchyard.
Ray’s grave is situated close to the wall approximatly half way along. \i am still in touch with his children and get to see them every now and again.
Hi Paul, Thank you for the information, glad to know is children are ok, Hope is wife Pat is ok too. Thanks
Hi Caroline, Thank you for the information.
I would like any information on the “Turner” or “Cox” families that lived in or near Cabbage Hall Farm in Radnage. They would have been employed as farm labourers and lace makers. I have records that my Grandmother was born there in 1893.
Thanks in anticipation
I have just noticed that you are researching the Turner/
Cox families of Radnage. I am looking into the Cox
family for my neice’s husband whose grandmother was
a daughter of Thomas and Phillis Cox,both born in
1872. Perhaps we could compare notes.
My Great Great Grandfather John Holland was a public house keeper in Radnage in 1861. Would anyone know the name of the pub. He died in 1867 , would he have been buried in St. Mary’s churchyard?
I am the great, great granddaughter of Mary Ann Judge FLETCHER who was born in Radnage in 1822.
Her single mother was Elisabeth FLETCHER (father possibly a MR JUDGE??) a lace maker born in 1803.
Mary’s grandparents were George FLETCHER and Elizabeth LAWRANCE and they married in Radnage in 1803.
I am wondering if there are any FLETCHERS or LAWRANCES in Radnage today
I would love to find out more about their lives and would be very grateful for any information.
I am seeking any info on the Newell family,I have a John Newell b 1786 living at Green End,Radnage in 1841.my great grandfather was William Thomas Newell b 1851 to John Newell b 1827 married Elizabeth [Eliza] Plumbridge b 1829 from Lewknor.William Married Martha ? b 1851,they moved to Worsborough South Yorkshire about 1889,after having two children in Radnage,Thomas b 1887 and Kate b 1881,hope you can help.John.
Attn John Wright
Ref Eliza/Elizabeth Plumbridge born 1829 Lewknor. I wonder if you know if she connects to Kate Plumridge/Plumbridge born 1865/66 who married a John Trendell. I am on gxmartinbaker (@) hotmail (.) com
Hi I am seeking any info on the Newell family,I am back to a John Newell born 1827 to John,born 1786 married to Mary born 1785.John married Eizabeth[Eliza] Plumbridge born 1829,Lewknor uphill.parents James Plumbridge b 1793 m to Sarah Smith b 1793.My great grandad was William Thomas Newell,b 1851 m to Martha ?hope you can help,John.
Ivor Clucas writes from Herefordshire: “My wife’s 5 x Great Grandfather was Peter George Florida who was baptised in Radnage parish church on 22 Oct. 1769 and described as “a negro child about eight years of age”. He married a Phillis Stone also in Radnage on 23 September 1781 and was described as a negro man of this parish. I am interested in tracing any others who have similar roots and trying to discover how Peter George got to Radnage.
I am assuming that the name Florida comes from his origins and he may have been brought over to this country by the Tonyn family who had Florida connections and Reverend C W Tonyn was rector in Radnage at the time of Peter George’s baptism and marriage.”
I saw on another website that you have a plan of Radnage cemetery and I wondered if it was possible to get a copy of this? I’ve transcribed some names a few years ago for my own research but if some gravestones were readable in the 60’s and not now the list may be of help.
Hi Ivor, For the pass twenty-five years i have been researching Black people in Berks and Bucks and plan to write & publish a book. I also came across references to Peter George Florida & his descendants. I believe that you have researched the Florida family extensively and would be thrilled if you could help me advance on the Florida family history.
I have been going through chemo so i am trying to use the good days to be productive and finally get this book finished.
Does anyone know if Peter George Florida’s grave still exists?
There is rumor that a there was a colored barman who worked in the three horseshoes back in the day. Try and trace a copy of a book by “Charles Jackson” named Radnage i’me sure there is a mention of it there, there might be other info that might help you. Ps very difficult reaading.
Thank you Paul Plumridge i will try to track down the book. Thanks for your reply much appreciated.
Does anyone know if Peter George Florida’s gravestone is still in St Mary’s churchyard or what the inscription on his grave was? Any help will be most appreciated.
” I’m looking for any information on my GG Grandparents – George Butler and Annie Strange. George was born in Radnage in 1856. In 1877 he married Annie (or Ann) Sophia Strange and, although Annie was born in Stokenchurch (31 October 1852), the marriage actually took place in Leeds, West Yorkshire, where they settled and raised their family. I have a little information about Annie’s family but have nothing about George’s family at all. I would be happy to receive any information and would also happily provide information that may help someone else. Please e-mail me at email@example.com “
I am trying to trace members of the Stone family who were chair manufacturers. William Stone was born 1804 was a chairmaker and employer and his sons followed in his trade. Mrs Norfolk’s Great Grandfather John being one.
i believe William Stone to be my Great Great Great Grandfather. He was married to Elizabeth Stone born in 1810 and she was a lacemaker and he a woodturner. Their son Jesse or sometimes Isaac was born in 1819. Are these people who you are looking for. I have more info and you can reply to
I am trying to seeking to find out more about the Hunt family who lived in Radnage until the mid-1600s. This may be a long shot but can anyone assist?
“I’m trying to trace any information regarding Hannah Avery, born in Radnage c1831. She married Archippus G Butler in 1854. I believe her mother was also called Hannah but I can’t be 100% sure. Any information on Hannah and/or her family would be gratefully received. Please e-mail me at firstname.lastname@example.org
Hi Jaqy, I’ve been asked to do research for a friend and my person of note in this area is Mary Ann Warren Avery who is listed on the England 1841 Census as Hannah Avery’s grand daughter. But Hannah Avery also had a daughter called Hannah aged 9yrs (in 1841) Also listed are Sophia (7), Benjamin (4) and George (2).
I believe Hannah seniors husband, Benjamin, Died in 1840.
The ‘FamilySearch’ site has parish records for Radnage on film 919246 – so that may be worth investigating. Unfortunately for my search the mother is listed but no father, Whoops!!
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