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Are you trying to trace relatives who used to live in Radnage?
Please leave a note below with your contact details and hopefully someone will be able to help you with your search.
I’m interested to hear that CWT may have been overseas early in 1769. He wasn’t with his brother George that’s for sure. George’s first voyage as commodore on the Phoenix is quite well documented. There is no reference to PGF of course. Peter was an incidental on the voyage, a small slave child found probably in either Jamaica or Cape Coast (Philip Quaque may have had a role here) not worth making a fuss about.
Two mysteries in CWT’s life – why was he exiled to Algiers? (I have a theory)and why was he booked as chaplain on the first Phoenix voyage – then decline?
All part of the rich story.
Hi Julian -If I could just make two suggestions based on my understanding of ecclesiastical life in 18th century England and my perusal of the Tonyn Paterson papers a few years ago:-
I am not sure where the idea of Rev CWT being “exiled” has come from. As a newly ordained minister he needed to seek a living. The British trading post in Algiers was a flourishing outpost of the British Empire and the living was in the gift of the king (as was Radnage). He probably felt quite pleased to accept the appointment as it would have been exciting and lucrative. As I am sure you are aware it was the norm in his family to serve overseas- all his brothers and his father spent most of their adult lives abroad. Once he realised that it was not to his liking he came home but he would have continued to receive the stipend without having to fulfill any duties; a prime example of absenteeism, which together with pluralism were two common problems with the 18th Century church in England
The authority from the admiralty to serve as a shipboard chaplin may well have been another sinecure that did not involve him doing anything or going anywhere but brought him an income to supplement the income that he took from the tithes in Radnage a small and poor community. In short this is most likely to be about generating additional income rather than performing any duties. Regards Caroline
Hello,
As you can see, my surname is Radnedge. I was wondering if there is any connection between my name and your village name. Does Radnage actually mean something in old English. For instance a village on the edge of something. Have you had any people living in the village or area with our surname?
I do know that many of my ancestors in the 1800s came from Bristol.
If you can find anything out, it would be much appreciated.
Kind regards,
Mark Radnedge
Darwen (Lancs)
I may be the “other descendent” mentioned earlier in this correspondence. I certainly have a number of original documents from the Tonyn family and have tried to trace the PGF story in relation to the Tonyns,the Stones and Radnage. I’ve now put together about 100000 words, well or ill chosen, which I’m finally drafting and thinking of putting on the web. There’s a tremendous amount to be said about Peter George, the family who brought him up and the circumstances of his time.
Does anyone possibly know if Pophley’s Farm & Newell’s Farm are/were one of the same (c 1840′s), as understand the Newell’s lived at Pophleys. Have a relative [Eliza King] born at Newell’s farm. And if so are the farms still there? Thanks.
I am descended from the Tonyns, via the aunt of Rev Charles William. I have some information about the family – names and dates for some of them, really (I’d be happy to share with anyone if interested). However, I was really wondering if anyone had any more interesting information about them? Who they were, what they did, etc…? julianpanisset@clear.net.nz
Hi Julian I’ll email you some info soon!
Re: Peter George Florida
It’s now believed that Peter was brought over to England by Rev Tonyn who had been a Chaplain at Algiers, and returned on his brothers ship which was a slave trading ship,trading from England to West Africa and the West Indies. I know that Peter George Florida grew up & married & was buried in Radnage….I would just like to know if there is a grave or gravestone? Anyone know?
Peter George FLORIDA.
A long time since I visited the site so sorry to those who might have been expecting me to reply. Here are some responses.
1 Although Charles William TONYN was offered the Chaplaincy in Algeria as far as we know he did not take it up pleading ill health I think.
2 There is no grave stone for PGF – the records show his burial was on 22 Jul 1793 – when he would have been about 32. Phillis his wife (nee STONE) went on to marry a Thomas IVES.
3 The records show that PGF was tenant at The Cheques public house between 1787 and 1792. The tenancy was taken over by a William Collins and a year later the name of the pub was changed to The Black Boy. It later became the Three Horseshoes the name it retains today.
Ivor
Thanks Ivor, I didn’t think that PG had a gravestone,thanks for confirming. As for the Revd Charles Tonyn theory it still needs proving one way or the other. I’ve seen five Admiralty doc’s. One for beginning of 1869 for permission to enter Capt Tonyn’s ship & enter our kingdom … for Charles Tonyn and one servant!I’m in touch with another descendant of PG who has in his possession some letters from the Tonyn family. From these he has another theory that it was the Revds’ brother the Captain who rescued PG from Guinea coast. I believe he bought some letters from a sale at Sotheby’s, which he thinks that maybe the Revd didn’t sail on the ship…i don’t know anymore as the guy wants to research a little more and write a book.You are welcome to my email address to disscuss further & i can explain in more detail,let me know. kind regards.
Ricki,
Thanks for the additional info. I have also been in contact with (I assume) the “another descendant of PG” that you mention and I am awaiting news on his book. The reference to “enter our kingdom … for Charles Tonyn and one servant!” is very interesting and I would love to know where you saw it.I assume the date is 1769 NOT 1869.
As I say elsewhere on the Radnage web site I have a copy of the Rev CWTs account book for the rectory in Radnage which covers the years 1767 to 1775. There is a gap in the entries between Feb 1769 and Oct 1770 so perhaps CWT did go away in this period and would tie in with PGFs baptism in Oct 1769. The accounts book mentions a Peter after this time and I assume this is PGF who was living in the rectory. There is also a Phillis Stone as a servant in the rectory who Peter George married.
My email is ivor(@)clucas(.)org – leave out the brackets – if you want to be in touch.
Ivor
Thank you for your reply. Yes i did mean 1769! I will email you the transcript i wrote and source shortly when i get the chance. From what you have said about the gap in the entries in the Rev CWTonyn’s account book the theory seems more likely by the day. As for Phillis i wondered how she and PGF got together!
A belated response. Just to say that I did a fairly thorough search or the Tonyn / Paterson papers a few years ago. I am confident that Rev Tonyn did take up the post in Algiers. I had the opportunity to read the notebook / diary in which he described the social events that he attended whilst in Algiers, also the relief he felt on departure on board a boat bound initially for Leghorn – no suggestion that it was his brother’s boat! No records of his brother operating in this area. He vividly describes the traumas of the return voyage, storms, pirates and lack of rations.
He landed at Marseilles. From that point he wrote every year to the king requesting to remain in England for the benefit of his “health” and his “affairs”. Hope that helps.
I have recently discovered that my father’s 5 sisters, when children, were sent on holidays to a pub in Radnage, staying with a Mr Harry or Harry, who was a relative. This would have been in 1890s or early 1900s. Their surname was Williams. I see that there are 2 pubs, The Crown & Three Horsehsoes, but I do not know which pub they would have stayed at. Is there any local history of who owned/worked at the pubs at that time?
Have no idea who ‘harry’ was, although my gt grandmother’s maiden name was Cooper & the family lived in High Wycombe. Would appreciate any suggestions. Thank you.
Whatva wonderful service this is. I have ancestors by the name of Stone who seem to have lived in Radnage for generations. I was wondering if any of them have tombstones. Some names are James (d. 1881), Robert (d. 1854), John the Elder (d. 1783, Elizabeth (d. 1810, Edward (d. 1787). Also would anyone know what their occupations were. I am visiting UK ( from Australia) in January and would love to see some evidence of them.
Hello Dianne
I have just spent New Years day with friends in Prestwood. Whilst there I visited Radnage for the first time. I too have ancestors called Stone, who lived there going back to the 1500s. I had a look around the graves at St Mary’s church and found quite a few Stones, some in the 1800s and some in the 1900s, but can’t remember their names.
My ancestors, who are likely to be your ancestors, too, were mostly yeoman farmers as far as I can see. Hope your trip goes well. All the best, Peter
Thanks for that, Peter. Unfortunately while we were in UK, most transport links into the countryside were closed due to heavy snow and ice, so we didn’t get out of London, let alone to Radnage. Next time…
Hi Dianne,
My geat Grandfather was Alfred stone born in Radnage in 1850.He came from a large family of Stones in Radnage.his wife was Julia nee Mayger who was born in Maidstone.his Father was Isaac or sometimes calling himself Jesse.his wife was Mary .Jesse or Isaac was born in 1819 and Mary 1815
In 1841 they lived in Town End. Alfred had quite a few children ,my Gran clara being one. I have a list of all the children if reqired.I too live in Australia,Victoria,Linda
Thanks Linda. My Stone ancestor came to WA as a convict, but could read and write, so would have had some form of education.
Hi Linda,
Jesse and Mary Stone are my gggrandparents also. My link is through Alfred’s sister Elizabeth who married John Dormer in 1869. I’d be interested to make contact. I also live in Victoria, Australia!
My contact email is cathiesteele(@me.)com (delete the brackets to use this address).
I look forward to hearing from you.
Cathie
STONE Graves
Diane – there are loads of STONEs buried in the church yard at Radnage as follows:
4 Henry STONE 2.8.1907 70
5 Mary STONE 24.8.1893 59
8 Mary STONE 25.7.1885 70
11 Jesse STONE 9.11.1895 77
13 Robert STONE 18.5.1872 66
13 Mary STONE 18.11.1887 76
14 George STONE 30.12.1914 68
14 Ann STONE 15.5.1931 81
19 Walter STONE 27.5.1955 71
42 Thomas STONE 13.12.1958 76
42 Francis STONE 8.9.1957 70
43 John STONE 2.10.1858 63
43 Ann STONE 11.9.1881 80
51 George STONE 6.3.1927 73
51 Eliza STONE 30.8.1935 79
53 Eliza STONE 25.10.1870 19
54 Jane STONE 11.12.1834 28
54 John STONE 29.11.1875 68
67 Robert STONE 1813 29
104 Elizabeth STONE 3.3.1810 82
105 William STONE 3.4.1840 83
105 Ann STONE 29.6.1806 50
105 Francis STONE 18.2.1840 78
106 John STONE 3.7.1785 35
107 Robert STONE 25.8.1762
If you visit the church you might well find a plan of the church yard in side to help you locate them.
Ivor
Thank you Ivor. I will have to visit the UK again and make sure it’s not winter where I will be prevented to go to Radnage by heavy snow falls! Some of the names on your list seem familiar, so I will have to check my notes.
Dianne.
Hi, I have details on my greandfather who was born in Radnage in 1892, his name was Francis John Turner, his father was William Turner a chair turner by trade, William wife was Maria Turner, formally Bird.
Hi, I have just sent off for a birth certificate for a phillis turner born 1872, if I have got my details right she is my great grandmother and married into the cox family, there is someone else on this site looking for cox turner whom we have sent a reply to but heard nothing back. when I know more will post my email address on here if any help to you. regards Steve Cox.
Hi,I am trying to find a distant relative, John TOOVYE, buried 21 Jun 1658, in the Radnage church yard. A photo would be really appreciated, of the stone, not him.
Cheers
i am trying to contact a peter and jackie browne that lived in radnage near the crown pub in the early 1970′s can anyone help with info.thanks
I believe they split up, Jackie married a Vernon Hook from Radnage i do not know of their where about now. Paul
Hi, Noel from Australia. I’m interested in the name Weller (Wellard) from Radnage.
I have a Thomas born in Radnage before Oct 1765 the son of Thomas Wellard & Elizabeth Hicks. Thomas who was born before Oct 1765 married Sarah Chapman and died in Radnage Dec 1841. If any one has any information on this name I would be very grateful. Thank you.
Hi Noel from Australia,
I am descended from Ann Wellard bap 18 Oct 1717 in Radnage, whom I believe was brother to your Thomas Wellard (Snr) bap 16-10-1706 together with Mary 1704, Sarah 1709, John 1711/12, and Hannah 1717. All were children of William and Sarah Welled/Wellad/Welhead/Wellard.
William Welhead (a labourer) and Sarah Allen were married by Banns at St Marys church 7-10-1703
Happy to share research. Please contact me by email.
Cathie Steele
Victoria Australia
I am trying to find out more about Mary LACY (LACEY?) who I believe married John FREE of Hughenden in Radnage Church on 08 Sep 1747 and died in Princes Risborough on 25 February 1776. Assuming that that was the bride’s church, I should like confirmation that she was born in the village in 1727 and anything else known about her, please.
Hi folks.
I have an ancestor who was baptised in Radnage. Joseph Ives – 9 Mar 1761. Son of Joseph & Mary Ives.
I think he ended up in Stokenchurch, and was buried there in 1842.
Are there any graves, or records of graves, for Joseph Ives Snr. c1726 & Mary Ives c1729.. Or possibly more children to them.
Regards. Steve Ives.
I am looking for any information about Thomas Wright Born 1891? Buckinghamshire. Brought up by grandmother and elder sisters. As his Mother died when he was very young . Grandmothers name and surname unknown. Sisters believed to have flower names Rose &Violet ? He grew up living on a farm in Radnage Buckinghamshire. The Farm house was down a very narrow track it had a very distinctive tree directly outside the door Possibly a pear tree. Are there any records of Thomas Wright or sisters attending the village school? He was employed as Apprentice chair maker before Joining the army before WW1 served in India in the Royal horse artillery. When he returned home from army after WW1 to find granny had died and sisters had moved away.
Any information about the name of the farm or family around 1900 and anything about Thomas Wright and sisters would be appreciated.
Roger.a.bailey@ntlworld.com
Hi, I believe my great, great, grandfather, Reuben Stone was born in Radnor in 1847. He married Caroline ? (orn in 1849) who was from Winkfield, Bucks. Are there any records of either Reuben & Carolines wedding, Carolines maiden name, or Reubens family. Thanks so much for any help.
Kind regards
Hi there. I am desperately trying to find out the fathers name of nicholas oxlade who was baptiss to ed in st marys in about 1476. Do the records go back this far and is there anyone who could help me find this information. I have done well getting back this far but all attempts at going back any further are really hard.
Hi, can you please tell me if Ray Brimble was buried in St. Mary’s Church in 1975 he died 29th Nov 1975. Can you please help for any info because he lived in Radnage Many Thanks
Regards Ellen
Yes – there is a gravestone that has is name on it. It is quite easy to find – close to the footpath that runs through the churchyard.
Ray’s grave is situated close to the wall approximatly half way along. \i am still in touch with his children and get to see them every now and again.
Hi Paul, Thank you for the information, glad to know is children are ok, Hope is wife Pat is ok too. Thanks
Hi Caroline, Thank you for the information.
I would like any information on the “Turner” or “Cox” families that lived in or near Cabbage Hall Farm in Radnage. They would have been employed as farm labourers and lace makers. I have records that my Grandmother was born there in 1893.
Thanks in anticipation
Hi,
I have just noticed that you are researching the Turner/
Cox families of Radnage. I am looking into the Cox
family for my neice’s husband whose grandmother was
a daughter of Thomas and Phillis Cox,both born in
1872. Perhaps we could compare notes.
Sue,
My Great Great Grandfather John Holland was a public house keeper in Radnage in 1861. Would anyone know the name of the pub. He died in 1867 , would he have been buried in St. Mary’s churchyard?
I am the great, great granddaughter of Mary Ann Judge FLETCHER who was born in Radnage in 1822.
Her single mother was Elisabeth FLETCHER (father possibly a MR JUDGE??) a lace maker born in 1803.
Mary’s grandparents were George FLETCHER and Elizabeth LAWRANCE and they married in Radnage in 1803.
I am wondering if there are any FLETCHERS or LAWRANCES in Radnage today
I would love to find out more about their lives and would be very grateful for any information.
Fingers crossed…….
I am seeking any info on the Newell family,I have a John Newell b 1786 living at Green End,Radnage in 1841.my great grandfather was William Thomas Newell b 1851 to John Newell b 1827 married Elizabeth [Eliza] Plumbridge b 1829 from Lewknor.William Married Martha ? b 1851,they moved to Worsborough South Yorkshire about 1889,after having two children in Radnage,Thomas b 1887 and Kate b 1881,hope you can help.John.
Hi I am seeking any info on the Newell family,I am back to a John Newell born 1827 to John,born 1786 married to Mary born 1785.John married Eizabeth[Eliza] Plumbridge born 1829,Lewknor uphill.parents James Plumbridge b 1793 m to Sarah Smith b 1793.My great grandad was William Thomas Newell,b 1851 m to Martha ?hope you can help,John.
Ivor Clucas writes from Herefordshire: “My wife’s 5 x Great Grandfather was Peter George Florida who was baptised in Radnage parish church on 22 Oct. 1769 and described as “a negro child about eight years of age”. He married a Phillis Stone also in Radnage on 23 September 1781 and was described as a negro man of this parish. I am interested in tracing any others who have similar roots and trying to discover how Peter George got to Radnage.
I am assuming that the name Florida comes from his origins and he may have been brought over to this country by the Tonyn family who had Florida connections and Reverend C W Tonyn was rector in Radnage at the time of Peter George’s baptism and marriage.”
Hi,
I saw on another website that you have a plan of Radnage cemetery and I wondered if it was possible to get a copy of this? I’ve transcribed some names a few years ago for my own research but if some gravestones were readable in the 60′s and not now the list may be of help.
Many thanks,
Richard
Hi Ivor, For the pass twenty-five years i have been researching Black people in Berks and Bucks and plan to write & publish a book. I also came across references to Peter George Florida & his descendants. I believe that you have researched the Florida family extensively and would be thrilled if you could help me advance on the Florida family history.
I have been going through chemo so i am trying to use the good days to be productive and finally get this book finished.
Thanks
Ricki
Does anyone know if Peter George Florida’s grave still exists?
There is rumor that a there was a colored barman who worked in the three horseshoes back in the day. Try and trace a copy of a book by “Charles Jackson” named Radnage i’me sure there is a mention of it there, there might be other info that might help you. Ps very difficult reaading.
Thank you Paul Plumridge i will try to track down the book. Thanks for your reply much appreciated.
Does anyone know if Peter George Florida’s gravestone is still in St Mary’s churchyard or what the inscription on his grave was? Any help will be most appreciated.
” I’m looking for any information on my GG Grandparents – George Butler and Annie Strange. George was born in Radnage in 1856. In 1877 he married Annie (or Ann) Sophia Strange and, although Annie was born in Stokenchurch (31 October 1852), the marriage actually took place in Leeds, West Yorkshire, where they settled and raised their family. I have a little information about Annie’s family but have nothing about George’s family at all. I would be happy to receive any information and would also happily provide information that may help someone else. Please e-mail me at easy2cancel@hotmail.com “
I am trying to trace members of the Stone family who were chair manufacturers. William Stone was born 1804 was a chairmaker and employer and his sons followed in his trade. Mrs Norfolk’s Great Grandfather John being one.
hi,
i believe William Stone to be my Great Great Great Grandfather. He was married to Elizabeth Stone born in 1810 and she was a lacemaker and he a woodturner. Their son Jesse or sometimes Isaac was born in 1819. Are these people who you are looking for. I have more info and you can reply to
stanlinda1@pacific.net.au
Linda
I am trying to seeking to find out more about the Hunt family who lived in Radnage until the mid-1600s. This may be a long shot but can anyone assist?
“I’m trying to trace any information regarding Hannah Avery, born in Radnage c1831. She married Archippus G Butler in 1854. I believe her mother was also called Hannah but I can’t be 100% sure. Any information on Hannah and/or her family would be gratefully received. Please e-mail me at easy2cancel@hotmail.com